TOO OLD FOR CAPE TOWN
I recently returned from a weekend in Cape Town. It was a fantastic trip. I got to see friends I haven’t seen in years, I got to marvel in awe (don’t tell the Capetonians) at just how supernaturally beautiful their city is, and I hypothetically shopped up a storm (I always blow my money on eating out and going for cocktails, so those Diesel jeans were spotted just one sushi platter too late).
And like any obedient gay boy, I dragged myself to the Greenpoint strip on the Friday night to squeak some tekkie and mingle with the famously attractive locals.
My evening at Beulah and Bronx started off much like any other on my previous forays into the Mother City. I met up with friends, arrived already a bit smashed, and discovered to my surprise that I knew quite a few other people who were out that night.
That was to initiate a series of surprises: the next being that one of my friends seemed to know the guy I had been eyeing out at the bar. He came over to chat, and introductions followed.
I would like to claim that I’m an old-enough soul to be drawn to any number of people, but I’m not. I have a very specific type. And he was exactly it: muscular, dark-haired and cocky.
My friends dutifully scattered to other corners of the bar, and left surfer boy and me to exchange life stories, phone numbers and the correct spellings of our surnames for Facebook purposes. The conversation flowed. We bought each other drinks. We moved on to the dance floor. It was all going according to plan.
Until, halfway through what I thought was a particularly witty anecdote of mine, he leant into my ear and said to me, “You know Al, you’re a very attractive guy, don’t get me wrong, but you’re too old for me.” Now can you all please take a moment to put down your mineral waters and let this sink in: I am 24 years old. He was 22.
Had my moment of glory passed before I’d even filed my first tax return?
I was so taken aback by the ridiculousness of the statement that I just laughed, bought myself another drink and made a mental note to ask my therapist why it is that I’m always so attracted to jackasses (It’s your father, she’d say). It wasn’t until I was lying in bed the next morning that the full weight of what had just happened hit me.
Was I really already too old for some people? I had always joked with my brothers that gay years are like dog years – they rack up pretty quickly and you’re over the hill by the time you’re thirty. But it was funny then because it wasn’t so close to the bone. Had my moment of glory passed before I’d even filed my first tax return?
I remember when I was eighteen I had a boyfriend who was twenty-four and I wince now to recall how I thought of him as an “older guy”. I certainly don’t feel like an older guy. I feel exactly the same as when I was eighteen.
And I suppose that is the terrifying thing about ageing – you never really feel any different. You just see your body change around you and notice that in the eyes of the world you are becoming increasingly invisible.
I have witnessed people in middle age go through it, and it is a cruel process. Allegedly it makes you stronger and purer: You can let go of the superficial, let go of other people’s expectations, and find your inner core beauty. But it is a life-lesson for a different phase of my life. It certainly shouldn’t start happening in my early twenties – a time which is all about adventure and beginnings and the sexual virility of ego and ambition and ascent.
I was humbled that night, but I choose not to become old and wise because of it. Instead, I’ll blame it on the unflattering lighting in Bronx, and be truly grateful, for once, that I live in a small town where I’m still cool, still attractive, and, dare I say it, still young enough.
Welcome to the club. How do you think I must feel being in my forties?????
welcome to the club…. With a name like Randy and you have a hard time?
40s. Hey guys,
I agree, “to each his own!” Look around and you’ll see that guys in their mid 30 – 40s are taking better care of themselves and have a much more wholesome and positive outlook on life.
And for this reason alone I find myself attracted to this and to them, bring on the Salt and Pepper Daddy anyday *smiley*
Age is nothing but a number! Lets not let it rule our lives. Go out there and show them what you still can do at 40 and ask if they’ll be able to do the same when they get there or will they have “burnt out?”
Oh, and could I suggest that Therapy does seem to be a club that is kind to guys in their “prime.” Hence, you’ll find me there.
See you there soon… Daddy!
snr citizen. Therapy where are you can not wait for it to re-open
Had the best times of my life there ( as a snr citizen beyond 30)
Older. I had more fun in my 30’s than in my 20’s – and now, early 40’s – just as much. More setady lovers, les sex, but better sex – and I still go out whenever I want to (which is quite a lot). Oh and the last two bf’s were 20 and 19 …
*wink*
Nah…. Sure, there are those guys that are attracted exclusively to younger guys and will see someone at their own age as being too old for them – what the heck, it’s their good right (and I am one of them at age 42). Luckily, there are also younger guys attracted to older guys; so while some 20-odd year-olds shun me as a pervert, others want to hang around with me. I consider that normal. To each his own, and as long as we are all happy in our relationships, who’s to say what another should be satisfied with.
The only problem with HUGE age difference is permanence in that relationship, and who can say which partner gets the worse end of the stick? The youngster might get tired of the older guy and leave him unable to find another young partner or the older guy might age or even die on the younger. I live in the moment and am happy that I have loved for today. If tomorrow holds less, then at least I have lived today. No regrets, and no questions, as long as the sun is at my back, I intend to smile, live, love and be happy.
This side of the Mountain….!!!. Yes, our bodies change and we grow older, it is a debt that we all pay. However, to say that in your 20ties is the only time your attractive is not right. Men are at their biological/mental prime in mid life. So the shallow capetonians who are either this side of the mountain or that side of the mountain can swim in their shallow, cold sea.
Huh???. I’m an average looking 40 year old guy living in JHB. I was in Barcelona and Lisbon on holiday recently and felt very welcome at their gay bars/clubs and “discotecas”. There were clubs in Barcelona, especially, that cater for the older man and where thirty-, forty- and fifty-year olds were the majority.
As soon as I got back to Joburg (and, from what this article says, Cape Town is no different) I went to a gay bar in Melville, only to be made to feel like an old perv (not by management, but by some patrons). In South Africa, a gay man over the age of 40 (not 24) is considered a bit of an outcast in the local scene. Most of us are settled, are economically stable and want to enjoy what life has to offer. We have a lot of money to spend. I cannot understand why in this country older gay men’s existence is ignored by the entertainment industry (bars, clubs, etc…).
Not all of us enjoy walking in the dark, disease-ridden sex-clubs and adult cinemas of this world. Not all of us enjoy soaking our bodies in someone else’s sweat and dirt at the local baths. So, why isn’t there a bar/club where mature gay men can go to without being made to feel like old pervs?
Al Mackay, If you think that 22 year old’s comment is shocking, then just wait until you’re 40. You won’t even go into a gay venue, because everyone will make you feel old. I know this sounds depressing, but don’t worry, because the sex does get better with age, and you will get guys in their twenties begging you for sex. But on an emotional level, you will still be “too old” for a relationship.
what nonsense. oh bleh. I’ve been with my boyfriend for going on 10 years and we are 21 years apart. we’ve based our relationship on friendship from the start and i still call him “my boy” because he’s so YOUNG AT HEART. He can party up a storm and will give a lot of 20 and 30-somethings a run for their money in looks and athletisism….. if you get my drift. My boyfriend and I share a lot in common and we’ve been through the mill together.
“If you place a thing in the centre of your life that lacks the power to nourish, it will eventually poison everything that you are. Be is a simple a thing as an idea or your perspective of yourself or the world. No one can be the source of your content. It lies within. In the centre.”
If you’re going to judge somebody on their age and diss them because they’re “too old”, its basically saying that you’re a shallow person, your loss and you probably wont get very far in life anyway.
Good reply!. I must agree. I find that no-one gives me any crap about who I am or what I do. Simply because I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I am me and people can like it or leave it. People who are obsessed with how others view them seem to get all sorts of negativity, don’t they?
hell, i am 22 & have been called old. Im “dare i say” an attractive 22 year old, and having graduated 2 full years early from high school, i spent the last 5 years living abroad all the while continuing my education through UNISA… the point being this year upon my return, i have discovered the superficial nature of our gay SA,is both shocking and definitly not warrented..
my time abroad was spent in England, Germany and Asia, ofcourse i travelled through europe, never did i experience the too old notion, unlike here.. and im 22 for fuck sake, and look 20..
i did get the “too young” excuse but that never bothered me much..
well
good luck to the rest of you
cause we’re gonna need it
Sing it sistah. Hahaha you make me laugh Al… Only you could make something so traumatising so hilarious to read! I think I may stay away from Bronx for a while…at least until my next facial peel!
Too old for CT. sad, sad, sad lives of gay men…
too old for the Mother City. Dear Al,
Ag Shame Skat!
u should try being 43 in the Mother City – it’s a real Bitch… I say leave the label queens who’ve OD’d on lala land and come to the bears we’ll dip you in chocolate and make you feel right at home
x-mwah!
cape town shmapetown. Ja..cape town..beaituful city..nasty homo’s..i went to bronx (music is shit, atmoshpere smells like an armpit) one evening and i can’t begin to describe how rude the locals were…i’ve been around the world..and never have i been recieved with such arrogance and pretention. So never again kaaaapie…i would rather hang out with straight people who call a spade a shovel..in bloemfontein or somewhere where there aint no mountain with a road sign that says clifton…yawwwwwn!
Bloem boy. Shame its sad that you crawled out from whatever rock your mother shat you out under. Cape Town has class you dont so do us a favour stick to bloem and carrying on getting str8 boys drunk so that you can get laid us Cape Town boys can spot you inbreeders a mile away
Listen. You are such a doos
Come on now really!. I can’t believe people would say and do that! This is truly a new low!
I’m 25 and in a relationship with a 31 year old, it’s been three years, and we’re very happy.
But not that that’s ever been a pre-requisite, my pervious relationship the guy was two years younger, and we were happy as well. I say, forget the “you’re not my type”! Having respect, trust, solid companionship and love is all ANY two people need to be eachother’s types. Come on please! Let’s not get anymore shallow! Being gay and finding any partner is hard enough as it is!
I’m not saying we shouldn’t have standards, but if you insist on me being built like a god, earning R30 000 a month minimum and driving the latest “gay” car, and being under 24, then you’re not worth my time!
More than Bronx. There’s more to Cape Town’s gay scene than Bronx and Beaulah Bar, and ageism is not limited to the Mother City. Let’s not forget that half the gay people in Cape Town have moved here from places like Jo’burg. Bars like the Loft Lounge, Manhattan, Amsterdam Bar & Friendly Society have a nice age mix and seem to be friendlier. Then there’s the Gat Party, but that’s another whole story….
YOU ARE ONLY AS OLD AS YOU FEEL… ALWAYS YOUNGE AT HEART.
Too old for Cape Town. I am a 44 year young guy, in shape and not ready to slow yet. Have to agree with Chocolate, Therapy is a good option for all kinds of people and lets hope Stuart us serious about opening Therapy again real SOON! Leave CPT for the people that want to spend their lives in that way, the world is a big place.
Too old for Cape Town. Welcome to our world. Remember it’s reversed once you over 40, then the young ones want you….
Cry me a river!. So a little miss priss gave you a diss… Now the whole of Africa’s gaydom has to hear about it? Wake up and stop counting your toes you self-involved drama queen! Lets rather talk about the world economy instead of your 24 year old wrinkles! Or at least about what’s on tv next week…
Everyone knows Cape Townians have no souls and need to attend finishing school – but I’m happy you can afford a therapist.
I guess your point is that it sucks to be old and single, and our shallow society is a total bitch. Welcome to what women have been experiencing since Cleopatra started bathing in goat’s milk.
PS: It’s spelled Beulah and Green Point is two words. I couldn’t help myself…
spelling queen bee. and FYI – it’s Capetonians…
what a joke!. Poor “old” Al – I would have given the 22 year old a slap and walked to the nearest young one and kissed him!
Seriously though – what a funny story – apologies that I find humour in your colum – but we have all been there in one way or nothing.
I am 27 years old and suddendly – I dont get as many messages as I used to get on meetmarket or gaydar – but what the hell – I am grateful that I dont have to meet these young ones.
Give him 2 years – he will come around and then you can tell him that he is too young for you!
im closer to 40 than 30…. …and yet, no matter when i’m out, whether in a straight club or gay, there is always some guy young enough to be my son [literally; my oldest son is 23] trying to either get my digits or drawers.
i think it’s you.
that said, many of said guys think that i’m late 20s instead of late 30s [black don’t crack, see…] but i never, ever, have had a problem with age being one of the things keeping me from pulling.
i get the feeling, though, that we’re fishing in different ponds.
26!. on the brink of 26 – I knew it! I’m doomed! ……lol
Too Old for Cape Town. Sjo – some bitchy comments!
I am from Cape Town and couldn’t agree more with Al.
That is why my friends and I stopped going to the clubs on a permanent basis about 4 years ago.
CBD folks are just of a different breed. We have way more fun in the Northern Suburbs and I don’t mean the straight bars and clubs…
Too old my ass!. Al dont take it to heart remember us Capetonians come out the womb knowing we are gay. So that boy was probabley in a serious relaitonship at 12 and he himself is also soon out to pasture.
Not a chance!. Well guys, If Al is too old, what is left for us turning 29 and 30!?
Should we be hanging around pension offices every month to collect our monthly payments now?
And what about us….. You think 30…..what about us going for 40/50
To each his own…. I’m 30 today and, whilst I had 20’s to remember (!), I’m happy to leave them behind and move into my 30’s… Each generation / age bracket will tell you life begins at… Life begins NOW no matter what age you are in, and people are people no matter how old they are, and if the guy in the bar doesn’t realise that, you (or any other guys) are better off without him… seriously.. ! I am more comfortable with myself now than I have ever been despite the fact that I have been in better shape etc etc… If I think how much I’ve learned in the past ten years… hells…. age is just a number… but it does bring you the gift of experience… *wink*)
Well written. As a thirty, ehem, one year old I’m often shocked at the stares 18 year old twinky types give myself and mates when we are out having a good time. The superficial gay norm of idolizing (american spelling intentional) youth and throwing away anything not trendy or fresh is only revealed as a mistake when you actually hit 30 yourself. Well done on noticing early on how stupid Mos’ can be. Take solace in your wisdom, and remember that when he hits 30 the surfer look wont fit him anymore.
hhhmmm. It seems quite clear that being “cool”, “attractive” and “young” are very important things to you. It’s no surprise you attract people like the guy you saw at the club. All you do is perpetuate what everyone thinks our community is about – that we’re shallow, self-obsessed, self-absorbed gay men. Well done. And really, having an existential crisis about a guy telling you you’re too old for him is – in a word – pathetic. Grow up. If only someone would say – age really doesn’t matter. But your whole article speaks only to how age really matters more than anything. Oh, and I’m a guy in the early 20s.