POLITICAL NOISE – TRADITIONAL LEADERS & GAY RIGHTS
Lance Weyer, Mr. Gay South Africa 2011 and a Buffalo City Metro councillor, gives us some perspective on the recent furore over efforts by traditional leaders to erode LGBT equality in South Africa.
A great storm has erupted on social networks relating to a proposal before a parliamentary committee which seeks to have the section of the Constitution that speaks to the right not to be discriminated against based on sexual orientations removed.
Some have claimed that this has already reached Parliament, which in fact it has not – and likely never will. Firstly I need to set everyone’s mind at ease – absolutely nothing is going to happen to sexual orientation rights in South Africa!
It is all politics – dangerous politics, but mere noise and no action.
In order for everyone to be clear on what has happened, I’ll try to explain the process as best I can. In our democracy, anyone has the right to make a proposal to amend the Constitution, and indeed many proposals have been made to the Constitutional Review Committee over the last 17 years.
Few have made it past the committee for further discussion. What makes this proposal of particular significance is that it seeks to amend an aspect of Section 9, in the Bill of Rights.
To understand why this happened, you need to look at the politics of the situation.
Last year, The House of Traditional Leaders, packed with members of The Congress of Traditional Leaders of South Africa, submitted a proposal to the Constitutional Review Committee (CRC) of the National Assembly to amend section 9 of the Constitution.
This committee, set up in terms of section 45 of the Constitution, has to review the Constitution annually. The committee is chaired by Patekile Holomisa, who also happens to be the President of The Congress of Traditional Leaders of South Africa (a conflict of interest perhaps?).
“…it is important to have LGBTI people visible so that government realises that we will fight for our rights.”
At this year’s committee sittings, most proposals were again dismissed, but not the proposals to change the property clauses and those concerning the abolition of the prohibition to discriminate against gay men and lesbians. The proposal to amend sexual orientation rights, and one concerning property rights, were then (apparently) referred to parliamentary caucuses for consideration. We have still not established that what has been reported is actually what the CRC decided.
It would not be the first time that CRC decisions were misminuted by its own secretariat. And, if they were misminuted, it would not be the first time that parliamentary matters were misreported. If indeed one or both issues were referred to party caucuses that would not be the first time: the proposal to raise the bar in disqualifying sentenced persons from sitting as MPs has previously been so referred, and precisely nothing happened. Needless to say, the opposition caucus was in favour of making exclusion more stringent but the matter has never resurfaced. (You may deduce from this that referring to caucuses is one way of killing an idea that keeps resurfacing.)
The ruling party ANC Chief Whip of Parliament himself has distanced the party from any debate around this [sexual orientation] matter and affirmed that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights remain the cornerstone of democracy in South Africa.
That such a suggestion has even been made in the first place is concerning, but we must remember that in a democracy everyone is allowed to comment. Traditional leaders are notorious with regards to anti-gay sentiments so this should come as no surprise to anyone who follows the news. In recent months, traditional leaders have been trying to test their political weight, with little success. As Pierre de Vos calls it: “Affirming their own moral inferiority”.
Currently in the review phase is the Traditional Courts Bill, which is certainly unconstitutional in its current form, and could drastically increase the persecution of rural women and LGBTI people if it comes into law unchallenged. (For more on this go here.)
This experience has proved one thing: that the South African LGBTI community has the power and drive to mobilise in numbers should the need arise. I’ve already come across a couple of petitions against this particular proposal. I believe that it is important to have LGBTI people visible so that government realises that we will fight for our rights – and importantly, also the rights of others.
LGBTI people in SA need to be shaken out of their complacency and inertia where it concerns the future; this does show that it is possible in theory to scrap gay rights and we should all be always vigilant. It would be great if this energy could be transferred into fighting causes that effect members of our community that are currently grossly underrepresented, namely the corrective rape of rural and township lesbians and the proposed Traditional Courts Bill.
Whew – good to know! Thanks for setting my mind at ease
Mmmm … I like it when a strong, good-looking man looks after me. Brains and brawn. Thanks Lance, you hottie
Really? This is a flirting opportunity to you?
LOL Anytime is a flirting opportunity for a gay man I guess (actually that’s probably true of ALL men!)
Good opening line, babycakes! Pity you can’t post pics, but we can always take this further.
Lance, I must say that I got a fright yesterday when the calls started coming in. I mean on a personal level I got married 2 months ago and suddenly it seemed all that was achieved was about to implode. You are right though about being vigilant and keeping ourselves aware. That is why I like this web site- it keeps one abreast of things. Tell me, is John Qwelane still High Commissioner in Uganda ? The last time I tried to contact him they said we was no longer there.
As far as we know he is still.
Thanks Adulai
well I feel a little better, but Lance is right we close our eyes to nonsense when it tries to take us over. I dream of a day I can wrestle with my man in a public park while we’re having a picnic… snuggling in public without any fear. Its a dream worth fighting for
I’m not surprised that many where alarmed after reading an article head lined: BE PREPARED TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS and now this piece pointing out why there’s no need to fear. The initial article should have been research enough to include the points made here.
The main article was necessary – if LGBTI ppl and their allies did not react with outrage (as we did), the ANC would not have condemned Holomisa.
It’s manipulative. People should be in possession of all facts in order to take appropriate action. Not fed information that will increase the chance of them acting as you would have them act. At any rate it’s a lesson to scrutinize the information source more rigorously.
What Lance’s article clearly states is that there is no need to fear NOW for LGBTI rights in general, but where the future is concerned, and the immediate future of LGBTI and women in the rural areas under the apartheid-style Traditional Courts Bill, the threat is real.
Just the fact that it is even DISCUSSED in parliament, should send shivers down our collective backside.
Why is the Gay Pride board so Quite on this?
They got a data base why are they not helping with the march next Saturday?
Monique asked Fulvio for help and was rerfused help…
I wonder why?
Why is the Gay Pride board so Quite on this?
They got a data base why are they not helping with the march next Saturday?
Monique asked Fulvio for help and was rerfused help…
I wonder why?
They not even attending the march
THANKS LANCE FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND CLARIFICATION. IT HELPS TO KNOW THIS PART, BUT THE LFBTI POPULATION IN SA SOULD INDEED BE AWARE THAT LITTLE IN SA SEEMS TO BE “UNCHANGEBLE”. A PURE GUESS WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE COULD BE AROUND 5 MILLION PERSONS OR MORE, BUT MANY, MANY OF US STILL LIVE IN ISOLATION OR HIDE BEHIND HUGE WALLS – NOT MERELY BOXES. I HAVE A GAY AFRICAN FRIEND WHOM I CANNOT EVEN SPEAK TO BY PHONE FOR “FEAR” THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HEAR US TALKING. AND THIS FRIEND IS CERTAINLY NOT ALONE IN HIS FEARS. THUS, THE COUNCIL FOR TRADITIONAL LEADERS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST BIASED OF ALL IN PARLIAMENT – BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY ONES!!!
THANKS LANCE FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND CLARIFICATION. IT HELPS TO KNOW THIS PART, BUT THE LFBTI POPULATION IN SA SOULD INDEED BE AWARE THAT LITTLE IN SA SEEMS TO BE “UNCHANGEBLE”. A PURE GUESS WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE COULD BE AROUND 5 MILLION PERSONS OR MORE, BUT MANY, MANY OF US STILL LIVE IN ISOLATION OR HIDE BEHIND HUGE WALLS – NOT MERELY BOXES. I HAVE A GAY AFRICAN FRIEND WHOM I CANNOT EVEN SPEAK TO BY PHONE FOR “FEAR” THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HEAR US TALKING. AND THIS FRIEND IS CERTAINLY NOT ALONE IN HIS FEARS. THUS, THE COUNCIL FOR TRADITIONAL LEADERS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST BIASED OF ALL IN PARLIAMENT – BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY ONES!!!
I am so sick and tired of this leader interfering with that issue. For GOD sake people, wake up!!! We are living in a time bomb unless we open our mouths and speak the truth. You voted for a crap government and now you reap the benefits. Why not unite against a common enemy?
Look back over their democracy… How many people have died because they cannot or will not supply HIV antiretroviral drugs(JUST LISTEN TO YOUR LOCAL RADIO STATION)? And this after the Swiss donated countless billions to research in SA? The questin is: Can we show where each cent have gone?
You live in a country where they steal your blood, because their TRADITIONAL healers feel that donating blood is against a religion. Why?
Traditional healers also feel garlic and beetroot will cure AIDS, if not, rape a young virgin girl and it(AIDS) will all be gone. How idiotic do they think we are?
The question is why do they want to get rid of our rights to be human? This goes for Traditional leaders and Traditional healers. Is it because we want/demand answers? Is it because we have the right to freedom of speech(And now they want to take that way from Hetro and Homosexuality)? Or is it just the TRADITION in itself.
Oh, hold on, I lit a candle a sheep and slaughtered a cow because I’m praying to my forefathers that brought live into a non existing culture, killing each other for being different and now they wanna proclaim superiority but TRADITION calls for it………
Oh, I can go on and on and on, but I won’t bore anyone anymore. My point is: Traditional anything has to go. Why not work or create your own tradition, than to use something as an excuse to try and make your point, where your tradition is only 300 hundred years old? Aand the world have been surviving without you 1 cent comment for over 3000 years.
Lance is a DA member. His POLITICS come first THEN gay interests, WHICH HE HAS PROVEN to South Africa by siding with his fellow DA buddies who write shit about the best gay and lesbian PROTEST and MARCHES in many many years. I was in Joburg – it was incredible. This is so much BULLSHIT. Wake up peeps!!